So Much for That “No Evidence of Vote Fraud” Thing

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Well, this sure is interesting:

Over 6,000 voters in New Hampshire had used same-day voter registration procedures to register and vote simultaneously for president. The current New Hampshire speaker of the House, Shawn Jasper, sought and obtained data about what happened to these 6,000 “new” New Hampshire voters who showed up on Election Day. It seems the overwhelming majority of them can no longer be found in New Hampshire.

That was enough to give Hillary Clinton the state.  She didn’t win, obviously, but the margin could have given the Democrat candidate for U.S. Senate the victory, as Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach points out.  (Imagine, too, if a similar report were to come out showing that fraud could have given President Trump Wisconsin.)

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If you’ve been paying attention, J. Christian Adams’s PJ Media article quoted above fits perfectly with the early-2016 sting by video journalist James O’Keefe.  Note, in particular Chuck Ross’s description of O’Keefe’s video for the Daily Caller:

“Like, I think in many ways New Hampshire is incredibly proud of their first in the nation primary, and for that reason they make all of these really lax laws, surrounding voting, so people can, like, take advantage of it,” Waterman tells a PVA journalist.

“Why doesn’t just every volunteer, like, ever in the office, just…,” the journalist begins to ask.

“I think they all have honestly,” says Waterman. “And like, all of our paid canvassers have done it. It’s very, very easy.”

“It almost seems like…it’s better to have people from out of state. Because they can do that and it’s like more votes,” the journalist says.

The poll workers whom O’Keefe filmed talk about using other people’s addresses, even the office building in which they were talking.  That starts to sound like the alarm that Ken Block has been sounding in recent months, here in Rhode Island.

It’s scandalous that Rhode Island politicians, including the Secretary of State, get away with brushing these concerns aside.

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  • BasicCaruso

    Gasp! College students use their out of state IDs to register and don’t subsequently change their vehicle registrations or get NH drivers licenses? Say it isn’t so, Justin!

    By that logic, while in college I would have been considered by the far right to have voted fraudulently in VA had there been a requirement that I use my NJ license to verify identity.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/08/election-integrity-commission-members-accuse-new-hampshire-voters-of-fraud/

    • Mike678

      Ah, yes. Let’s not investigate because three students spoke out. While I agree that the accusation is overblown, it bears investigation.

      Perhaps we should check to see if these citizens also voted in their home state? Would that be fraud in your world–or just justified ‘resistance?’

      • Justin Katz

        Of those three, by the way, one appears to be an intern with a Democrat U.S. Senator from New Hampshire, and another was a page in Congress. (I don’t have the time to parse the 3rd from people who share his name.)

        Suffice it to say that with 5,000 unaccounted-for voters deciding races with margins in the low 1,000s, finding three anecdotes, with at least two being politically connected (and at least one explicitly with Democrats), hardly debunks the initial report.

        • BasicCaruso

          Yes, and let’s not let the lack of any actual proof get in the way of good spin…

          http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/11/opinions/new-hampshire-voter-fraud-opinion-koczela/index.html
          Perhaps saddest of all is that there are many ways that actual experts could help boost confidence in the electoral process, making it more fair, equitable, and transparent. With the growing threat of systemic hacking, along with gerrymandering, voter suppression, and ballot access challenges, which limit Americans’ ability to cast their votes, there are some very real issues that threaten our elections and our democracy that need attention.

          By ignoring these much larger threats and focusing instead on unproven campaign gossip, the commission is missing an opportunity to reassure voters that our elections are fair and protected. So if Kobach wants to find what’s undermining voters’ confidence in voting, he need only look in a mirror.

          • Mike678

            First we have the ‘three people of 6,000 have an excuse so nothing to see here'” reasoning fail–and now we have the ‘there are bigger issues, and how dare you cast doubt and undermine our confidence in the election process’ defense–yet another reasoning error. At least you are consistent.

            Why does this upset you so much Russ? If there is nothing here, it will be proven, will it not? How do we get proof without an investigation? Why the fear?

            http://g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Voter-Fraud-Final-with-Appendix-1.pdf

          • BasicCaruso

            I’ve seen the light. Also water fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face. Please prove it isn’t.

            This is the kind of stuff on the left that makes Dems demand investigations of Russian hacking and Trump administration collusion. Where’s the proof? Why does that matter, and more to the point, what are you so afraid of, Mikhail?

          • Mike678

            So, no answer and more poor reasoning. Not that we expected any better….

  • BasicCaruso

    “Probably most of them [those who registered using an out-of-state license as ID] are college students, but it’s hard to tell how many,” Fergus Cullen, a former chair of the New Hampshire Republican Party in 2007-2008, told us in a phone interview.

    “What Kobach and the commission are conflating is a state law they don’t like with massive fraud, and they are two different things,” Cullen said.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/kobachs-bogus-proof-voter-fraud/

    • Mike678

      Probably? Maybe? Could be? Perhaps we should find out?

      • BasicCaruso

        Yes, why let probable cause get in the way of a good snipe hunt? Is that a squirrel making that noise? Probably, but to be sure we better get the guns and dogs. After all, it’s someone else’s money!

        • Mike678

          Just more of the same. Thanks Russ.

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